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I just don't like agnostics. :? Real talk. Fence-sitters need to pick a side.
rubicon7 said:ha, yea Rakon, i graduated with a degree in philosophy, so i've read a couple of them before for the most part, i think aristotle had it right. i know, i know, i'm antiquated
i also know that a degree in philosophy mostly means squat
God's a buddhist? which kind? ha cuz there are several flavors, and some of them are downright silly. to say suffering is the greatest evil, yet claim our present self is an entirely new and distinct person from the self of before (not in the "i've grown" sense but the metaphysically distinct sense), it makes me scratch my head
StalfrosCC said:You can't have the New Testament God without the Messiah, so if you have a Jewish background it is easy to see why the God of the New Testament is hard to understand.
But I don't want to argue religion with you, I'd rather be loving you up.
In a gay way.
Typewriter said:I just don't like agnostics. :? Real talk. Fence-sitters need to pick a side.
Trippysmurf said:StalfrosCC said:You can't have the New Testament God without the Messiah, so if you have a Jewish background it is easy to see why the God of the New Testament is hard to understand.
But I don't want to argue religion with you, I'd rather be loving you up.
In a gay way.
Well Judaism does have a Messiah; he just hasn't shown up yet. And he's probably going to be pissed anyways.
Also, I'm sorry I missed out on your XBL Movie Night. But last year I saw Manos: The Hands of Fate twice in one week, and my brain still hasn't recovered. (No joke, my brain shut down for self-preservation during both viewings, which is why I still can't recall what happens in the middle of the film.)
rubicon7 said:...also, it shouldn't just be that a god "could" use science, it seems that it would have to, don't ya think? i mean. the laws of physics don't just float in and out of relevance, the world is tightly ordered by laws and principles. science, from a theist perspective, is the how of the things. just not the why. to believe in a theistic world where science weren't essential and fixed, perhaps something along the lines of Hume, we would have no way of interpreting the world around us.
Rekkie7 said:Typewriter said:I just don't like agnostics. :? Real talk. Fence-sitters need to pick a side.
Why should we pick a side when we will never have all the facts?
It's not a game, and I don't want to pick a believe because of what sounds good (oh, eternal happiness, that's nice I'll go with that) but rather what I believe is real. For me, science makes a hell of a lot more sense then religion. However I can see that an "all powerful god" could have used science as a test, or just put in place to give some laws of our world....that's not something I believe is true but nobody can rule that out.
Why is picking a side so important?
Same thing here. We're really messing up the Finnish statistics on religions.Affen said:I don't think I've ever believed in god or anything in the bible. Actually I've never paid much attention to it. Always been a wild and free pagan running in the forests naked. Just the way they hate it.
Still I'm a part of Lutheran church. Funny thing.