This is probably how this argument (or debate) is going to keep going. "logical humans" as one poster put it, will scratch their heads and wonder how the religious can believe in an invisible man, while the religious will slam their fingers into their ears and scream "LALALALALAPROVEITLALALALALA". One side will never end up conquering the other. The only way to truly know is to die and find out. After that, well, shit. Can't exactly come back and report your findings, can you? I just wanted to remind people of this simply because I can see this topic veering off into personal flame wars. Especially with certain comments that I've read. I'd just like to keep a (so far) civil debate on that course. 'Tis all.