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Discussion in 'Films, TV, Music, Books, Etc.' started by UrbanMasque, Aug 26, 2010.
Hey Matt, what happens in Amsterdam stays in Amsterdam.... Except herpes.
Noted. Can someone please give me a reason against the legalization of weed that couldn't also apply to alcohol consumption?
<-------26 (27 on Sept. 14th, BA Digital Media - Internet & Interaction. Work full time for an independent web business and been employed for almost 3 straight years since college, in my field no less. Once or twice a week I volunteer with a youth group and a few times a year I volunteer with county parks; I donate to environmental groups and The Homeless Voice; I am trying to help out the local chapter of my fraternity which recolonized down here; and I also smoke, too.
So Urban, I guess we're splitting his retirement?
Anyone watch PBS? If so you should recognize this man. If not, he's paid to travel around Europe. Did you know he's on the Advisory Board for NORML. Oh, he also owns an apartment complex that he uses to house homeless mothers and children. Clearly this man is a huge douche bag. :roll:
Also, speaking of douche bags
Hey Longo, ever heard of Portugal? Ever heard of their drug policy? Probably not but I'll enlighten you, if you're willing.
or TL;DR: Portugal decriminalized every drug, and in doing so -
Wow, Portugal decriminalized everything, and its been a huge success! GASP! And less people died in doing it. I guess your theories are wrong.
Here is something most of you with the attitude "Drugs r bad, mmkay" fail to realize: chances are most of those people wouldn't have done shit with their lives whether there was pot or not. There are losers out there. The substance doesn't make them a loser.
As well, please look back at all those people who consume vast quantities of alcohol. What they do is completely legal. How many of them are still dumbasses?
I always find it kind of funny that the people defending weed always seem really high strung and can't take a joke. You wouldn't think.
That said, on a serious note, I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. Honestly, like Urban said, there's not that much about it that can't be said about alcohol. I mean, the main problems with it are the people producing it who throw shitloads of chemicals and pesticides on it and whatnot. With more public and private ownership, that problem would fade a bit. But as such, the laws against marijuana consumption would need to be the same as the laws for alcohol, with one minor exception. If you've smoked any weed at all, to the point of even noticeable impairment, it would have to be about the same as a .08 bac. Whatever.
As for Amsterdam, my parents came to visit me when I was in England and we went there together. Oh, my, god, I loved it there. Not just because of the weed, beer, women, and casinos, but because it was fucking beautiful there. I wanted to get a day job and move in to a small apartment in some little dutch town, that's how great it was. The Dutch people were so damn friendly, and it was great.
Now on to the other stuff about it. The Red Light District is crazy, because there are all the prostitutes who rent out small rooms with a glass door overlooking the street. As Mattay said, it's about 50 Euros, or 75$, for 20 minutes with one of the good ones. I went there twice with my dad to "window shop," and while there were a few gorgeous ones, most were either just "mostly pretty" or something of the like. One of the gorgeous ones opened her door and beckoned me in, and it took every ounce of free will in my body not to go. That said, there are a bunch of them that should find a job that doesn't involve being scantily clad in a window. EUUGH.
And then me and my dad went to a coffee house, shared a joint, and ate a shitload of ribs together. It was pretty awesome.
All this talk of Amsterdam: anyone go to any shows?
So do i.
I also know several people who haven't touched any drugs their entire life and have ended up dead before 20, homeless or stuck in dead end jobs making fuck all pay and doing absolutely nothing with their life.
I also know my brother who has never touched the stuff and, as discussed, just recently sold a business, and a contractor who just bought a Ferrari F355 having never touched any drugs or booze in his entire life.
Then there's the flipside, where i personally know the region manager of Coles who drives a company bought BMW 5 series to work everyday and lives in a house valued at over 1.5mil, and he admitted to smoking up until he was 28. I know the friend i was talking about who is working for a plumber just bought a $15k car and he smokes with me and a few mates all the time.
It's called PEOPLE eyebrows. Weed has no relevance on success that i can see.
On the subject of Amsterdam, back a few months ago when i was starting to hate this country, i was giving VERY serious thought to moving there.
Serious enough that i contacted some relatives of mine who live there and started learning more of the language.
Oh my. Do we have a correlation/causation problem here?
I'm 22, I'll let you guys know how I'm doing in 4 years. best I can tell now is that I'll have a BA in history this year and probably a masters in 2 or so.
So not doing pot has led you to pursue education in a useless field make ridiculous correlations between smoking and success in life? =\
I'm never letting my kids NOT grow up on pot.
Who the hell are you? Only morons and fuckwads consider history worthless. And do stupid shit like this. Be straightforward and not be a coward.
And, yes, I'm being ridiculous. It's the internets. There's also no hard evidence for...any of the shit we've all been talking about. hoorah. I merely make a silly comment about weed and Urb and half the forums get their knickers in a knot.
For someone so ridiculous, you sure seem to have taken my statements a little seriously! Pardon my antics. I only did this stupid s*** because I couldn't do a strikethrough. I give users credit... although perhaps a little too much at times.
I would also like to add that there is a lot of "hard evidence" (as opposed to the soft variety) for the things we're talking about. I gather some people aren't as familiar with them as some others.
And if I HAD to choose between moron and fuckwad... That depends upon who's involved. Don't worry about who I am!
Now go get on that bachelor.
You cannot change History, you can only change the future.
Therefore it is completely useless.
Your whiteout annoyed me.
Also like to point out 3 of 9 current SCOTUS members started with BA's in history. fun times.
Also, have some hard evidence? show it.
No, seriously -- are you being ridiculous on purpose here? At first I thought you meant that you acknowledged that it's teh internetz and that things are kind of silly on here... but now it just seems like you're admitting that you're part of the body that makes the internetz headdesk ridden. Either way, at least you know it, I suppose.
Don't think too much about it. By getting your BA, you're CREATING evidence that not being a pothead makes you successful!
Also, I prefer to think about it more like a whiteIN.
I don't want to bore the rest of the thread-lookers with the hardest of evidence, but I believe that some fairly hard things have already been presented (I'm looking at you, Phelps (and your medals)). If you're genuinely interested in evidence for one particular aspect, please create a list and we can put together a research team. I study this kind of thing a lot, but I don't always show for free. 8)
Oh yes you can. History is taught so effing horrible around the world, that the it all becomes a mess. Most Americans, hell, most cultures, don't like errors or evils to be repeated to their populations. We leave out the horrors committed in the past, and by doing that, you change the future.
History can be changed in the future by the devious and the wrong. Wee.
To sightless: I wasn't referring to individuals. you can list probably 10 million successful potheads. Congrats. 6 billion to go. Articles is what I'm referring to. Reading is fun, and I'm bored, gimme. :roll:
Did anyone else find this post absolutely hysterical? I mean, it couldn't have happened any better. Amazing.
Maybe you should consider majoring in English?
History itself changes the future, but madster was pointing out essentially that you can't change the past. Of course you can't change anything in the actual future, since you are only active in the present... Unless there's something you'd like to tell me. We can have THIS kind of discussion in further detail as well, if you like.
I don't even understand what you are saying here. I will not FEED you the information like that -- stop being so lazy! You don't pay me nearly enough for that.
We only know the past from what is left behind. What if we, say, destroy ever record of the nazi flag, and then in all the books and media, etc., replace it with a pink bunny, but teach it all the same. History has, effectively, been changed, because all evidence points to that being the truth. Then all pink bunnys? Fucking evil man.
and on the second part, as a common courtesy, people share information in arguments. Not snub their nose and tell them to do it themselves.
I'm too lethargic for that.
I suppose we ought to refine our definition of history, then. History as is taught and remembered, or history as factual/real events that occured, or history in a more literal sense, as Holingshed might create.
I also find it interesting that you quickly call history-changers (if we're allowing that) devious and wrong.
Yes, but you were after more information than this thread is willing to offer, when you ask for articles for your reading pleasure. As I say, my statement was already referring to an existing collection of evidence present in this thread. Anyway, I did make an offer of information to you, if you had something more specific in mind. Otherwise, Google searches aren't worth it.
History is a tough one to define, because what we know is only, usually, 5% of what actually happened. And I wouldn't call it quickly, just a general view of what can happen when culture elites blot out sections of history that don't go down favorably. The Rape of Nanking is a good example of this, and the treatment of Indians by the US government is another. When you're applying history, it's about obtaining information (from all sides) from documentation left behind by witnesses, people that were there, and making an educated interpretation. I'm having a hell of a time reading Pliny in Latin getting information on lead usage in wine and such, trying to get my own data from original, primary, sources, rather than read someone who has written about the subject.
I don't consider pictures of Michael Phelps evidence. Again, show me 10 million successful, frequent potheads, and I'll find you 10 million unsuccessful potheads; the data that is lacking is that did pot make people successful or not, or did it really not make much of a difference. It's a mind altering substance, much like booze, and causes people to do things differently then they would have if not under the influence (to use a cliche).
Not making sense at 3 in the morning. Coffee at dawn. I'll bring the powder, Burr.