I stayed up till about 4:30 every morning when I rented that, absolute beauty of a game. That is just BioWare doing its thing though... I liked FF7, I didn't like having to level materia up. That got to be a real pain in the ass, especially when I needed several All materias leveled up and had to start from fresh, takes too long. Drawing in FF8 wasn't too bad, but it could still be a pain. And Diabolus mentioned it. Legend of Legaia. http://www.gamerevolution.com/review/legend-of-legaia Socking black chicken looking things to start a game, kept me going through a rough combat system for quite a while.