GTA IV is certainly worth the plethora of topics. I think the series as a whole is overhyped, and havent put this one in my disc tray yet, but like it or loathe it, it's a huge event for the gaming world. There's plenty of different aspects to discuss, and i struggle to see how the play of a game should be lumped into a topic along side a discussion on critical response and one on the gaming market.
People need to calm down with their closing, flipping, rearranging, combining topics. This forum has such a small topic turnover, it really doesnt matter even if you don't think they merit their own discussions...which i firmly believe they do.
EDIT: Though perhaps keeping the titles a bit more clear on what aspect they are about is a fair criticism...I do seem to need to read within to work out.
I'm not sure how i feel on the subject of OOT. I mean, yes, for it's time it was pretty unequal - but do we judge everything by the benchmark they got when they came out? If so, equally revolutionary games may not surpass it, with so much more to them, just because for that gen it was storming. I do like OOT of course. Love it in fact. I havent played yet so will come back to this, but i've seen videos, and cant help but feel GTA hype may have got a bit of a grip again. Not at all to say it isnt brilliant, which i'm sure it will be, but best game ever seems a huge leap.