Man I am so lost...
So I re-watched both Oldboy and Batman...they have not aged well.
Oldboy is a tough sit still moreso due to the subject matter, and how depraved it goes. It thankfully goes beyond the typical "Vengence" story where the hero actually "wins" in the end, although I don't know if that is saying much.
The hypnosis aspects and conditioning parts, leading to the relationship between Oh and Mi-do, never made sense to me, but at the very least, it provided a surprising reveal and a complete 180 to the character of Oh, which really made it heartfelt in a weird way.
I don't know, this is only the third time ive seen Oldboy, and it's getting close to the territory of Battle Royale for me, movies I will never watch again because it's that fucked up and disturbing.
As for Batman...honestly, Batman Forever is a better movie.
If you really think about it, what is this first Batman movie about? Out of all the characters involved, the only one with a lot of screentime, as well as character growth, is actually The Joker. Jack Nicholson not only carries the movie, he is the only reason to watch this movie still. This is a weird similarity to Heath Ledgers Joker in The Dark Knight, but at least The Dark Knight had growth and pathos with the Batman Character, and the strong supporting cast.
Here, I just see wasted potential really. Michael Keaton is a great Bruce Wayne, but I don't believe he made a good Batman. Vikki Vale was a wasted character, Alfred is the worst butler in history by letting Vale into the Batcave, which made no sense and she left it anyway to take pictures of the Joker's Balloons during the parade, and subsequently gets captured....
I don't know, this movie does not hold up. I think the reason it gets a pass all the time is because it was such a huge hit in 89.