Well I said that as a cheap comeback, I have no interest in SH at all. As for GTA, I know it may not appeal to the purist taste of some of the GR members, but I was hooked at 11, so who can blame me? I got GTA 3 in '01 when there was nothing else around to grab my attention and it offered me a game with freedom, a violent plot and story, interesting characters, great voice acting and my first real free roam. I play a game and if I enjoy it, it becomes a favorite, simple as that. I don't care about the developers and what their 'cashing in on' because they gave me an entertaining game. The GTA games are just that, entertaining, and is well worth 60 bucks. I don't take interest in if a company is whoring themselves, etc. You give me an enjoyable game, thank you, here's my money, do what you please, I don't care. I'm not saying it's true here, but I sense a lot of people dislike GTA because it's so popular and mainstream now. If the GTA games were as low on the radar as 1 and 2 were, their wouldn't be half as many fans. But because it's such a cash cow that takes in millions, it gets shitted on, well that's just not fair. They figured out a formula that works, good for them, keep churning out GTAs so long as it stays fresh and innovative I say. The minute it gets repetative and stagnant, I'll hop aboard the I hate GTA, it's a mindless attempt at a video game, blah blah blah, train.