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actually russia was never communist to begin with, that was just a name given to what became of the country by the fear-mongering western bourgeioise to serve as a counter-point to their own acceptable way of life. So the argument is kind of a moot point...
 
Agahnim said:
actually russia was never communist to begin with, that was just a name given to what became of the country by the fear-mongering western bourgeioise to serve as a counter-point to their own acceptable way of life. So the argument is kind of a moot point...

Well, according to the US armchair politicians, "communism" (aka those god-damn red liebruls) is an oppresive authoritarian system, internally somewhat socialist but fiercely capitalist in foreign trades. At least that's what the USSR was.
 
Communism on paper rocks but in reality it doesn't include one little thing - human greed.

Edit: this is also where I stop, this site is about gaming and not politics, so I'll probably stop talking about this now.
 
Kijan said:
Communism on paper rocks but in reality it doesn't include one little thing - human greed.

Edit: this is also where I stop, this site is about gaming and not politics, so I'll probably stop talking about this now.

Wrong, greed is nothing but a by-product of greed-based economical systems we're being indoctrinated with. It is an imperative function of the brain, surely - but then again, so is the tendency to reproduce, but that doesn't mean everyone is fucking everyone in the street - as we're social animals, any such hard-wired urges can be eliminated by the use of social standards and self-control. Of course, I'm not saying this is true for every last human, because there will always be deviants and criminals as long as there are laws and social standards.
 
ZankerH said:
Kijan said:
Communism on paper rocks but in reality it doesn't include one little thing - human greed.

Edit: this is also where I stop, this site is about gaming and not politics, so I'll probably stop talking about this now.

Wrong, greed is nothing but a by-product of greed-based economical systems we're being indoctrinated with. It is an imperative function of the brain, surely - but then again, so is the tendency to reproduce, but that doesn't mean everyone is f****** everyone in the street - as we're social animals, any such hard-wired urges can be eliminated by the use of social standards and self-control. Of course, I'm not saying this is true for every last human, because there will always be deviants and criminals as long as there are laws and social standards.

spock? is that u?
 
Zanker - Stop and get back to discussing the game. Everyone else can drop it, why can't you? You do not know everything, you are not right all the time. Shut the hell up and discuss a game for a change.
 
Lethean said:
You do not know everything, you are not right all the time.

Nor have I ever claimed the contrary. In fact, if I believed I was always right, I wouldn't even bother debating, since, from my point of view, it would render the act of the exchange of the arguments wholly irrelevant if I know the absolute thruth.

Shut the hell up and discuss a game for a change.

This sentence includes two proposals, which appear to me as if they were mutually exclusive.
 
ZankerH said:
Lethean said:
You do not know everything, you are not right all the time.

Nor have I ever claimed the contrary. In fact, if I believed I was always right, I wouldn't even bother debating, since, from my point of view, it would render the act of the exchange of the arguments wholly irrelevant if I know the absolute thruth.

Shut the hell up and discuss a game for a change.

This sentence includes two proposals, which appear to me as if they were mutually exclusive.

Ahh yes ... on the boards we always find the nitpicker. You may not claim something, but you make us think it.

About the mutually exclusive proposals ... yes if you interpret their definite meaning then yes, they are mutually exclusive. But I think you and I and of course Lethean know that he probably asked you to lessen your 'voice' a bit down about politics and start discussing the game for which this thread was made for. No? ;)
 
Kijan hit the nail on the head. Yes, it seems I'm giving a mixed message there - Shut the hell up and discuss...Tisn't about finding flaws in what I'm saying. You know damn well what I meant Zanker. You repeatedly ignore mods when they ask you to return to the topic at hand, you seem to like arguing with...Well everything. You are basically a troll with a bit of "smarts". Trolls can be dealt with. Smarten up.
 
Ummmm just so everyone knows, Zanker isn't a normal GR poster, he's a brain in a vat/ AI construct specifically designed to protect North America from a nuclear attack, don't piss him off or he might go loco and start attacking his own people and then our only hope will be the Asgard.
 
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