StickyGreenGamer
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What are they supposed to do? Sift through the protesters and weed out the hooligans?
The people that damage property are more than likely not associated with the protests, but rather use the protesters as a cover to do these acts. That is unless (*places his tin foil hat on*), they are moles sent to discredit the protests.
Yes. If you are attempting to make a statement then parameters need to be well defined and enforced. That involves leadership though, and a well understood goal, something these protests lack. Idiots regularly come to parties and ruin them, I'm sure most of these people would understand that, unless they are the idiots themselves. Poor leadership led to what happened.
Them not having a central figurehead, makes this movement is better. No one person to placate on behalf of the masses. No one person to tarnish, to discredit the group. And no one message to undermine.
And no single message to drive the horde in the appropriate direction. No common goal for them to move towards. Just an expression, hollow and meaningless.
If nothing is going to come out of this - What do you think would cause change, in YOUR opinion? I also believe that not much will change, but by not demonstrating in SOME form - you're completely giving up. What should they do if they want change?
Nothing will cause change. This country is broke, unable and unwilling to repay its debts, to make the necessary cuts and sacrifices to fix things. Politicians (who should not be paid for their jobs, as it should NEVER be a career) are so worried about keeping their jobs that they tote heavy handed lines blind to reason and logic. So worried about pleasing their constituents that voted for them that all they will do is point fingers rather than work towards any form of a compromise. The only thing that gets unilateral support through the government is pay raises for themselves, and while some involved criticize the motion, they still leave their hand out to take the check.
Partisan politics has absolutely destroyed this country. Too many idiots have gotten involved. People are more concerned about what others are doing than themselves. "You can't do it like that!! You have to do it my way, its the only right way!" Overabundance of regulation where unnecessary, lack where necessary. Too much red tape, too much administration, too much government, too much nosiness. People need to take a step back, a giant step. People are much too busy trying to control others lives' to make any form of "change" happen.
WAAHHH - that protest doesn't have a message, lets be honest man - if you don't know why people are upset then you're delusional. The general idea of the protests: In short, is that things are bad. And the feeling is that people want to reform the policies that places ALL of the burden on the working class.
Yes, I must have missed how bad things have gotten. As I sit here, in my $800 a month ivory tower located in one of the worst spots in this town. As I went to the bank this morning and overdrafted my checking account so I could have enough money for this week, you know, due to the lack of jobs around here. All of the burden my ass. They aren't signing paychecks, paying healthcare costs, forking out tons of money for shitty employees that don't get the job done. Be careful how you fire them as well, one slip of the tongue, one wrong adjective, you find yourself in the middle of a frivolous lawsuit.
Sue, regulate, complain. It is the fault of somebody else. Curious, how many of these people at these protests are still paying phone bills, internet, house payments. How many of them took their vacation time to show up?
Tell me - what was the message behind the Tea Party movement? Take our country back? Ya, Real clear. Now, they have politicians playing to their movement - which will probably happen for the occupiers in November when Dems are trying to get reelected. I hardly call that nothing. So yes, the stooges will change - but with the changing stooges, comes the changing messages they carry.
I do call that nothing. What impact has the tea party really had on how things are done? Yeah, there are new faces up there. Dealing with the same old shit the last ones were. Good politicians, there are a few. Our Congressman has represented his district superbly throughout the 15+ years he has been up there, and he will continue to. One man doesn't change a thing up there though, because it takes more than one person to get something done, and there isn't enough people seeing eye to eye to form any kind of consensus.
You want to change something? Get rid of your worthless paper notes and digital credits for something that actually has value, like gold (which is nothing more then a rock in the ground assigned value) or supplies, and wait for the rotten scaffolding of this country to finally collapse. You'll be in position to change something then. Until that point though, worry about yourself and screw the rest of society. They aren't exactly helping anyone.