I have no idea why people hated The book of Eli

[MikeyVassallo]

Yeah, you can't really use Abraham and Isaac as proof of God's violent nature. You can use the Judges all you want... but not the Abraham and Isaac story. That was pretty much an allegory to sum up the whole beauty of a monotheistic religion- God will provide.

 

[Lien]

^^i concur except that the poor ram got shanked in the end...

Not to start a flame war but i think that Urban has some issues with religion in general... What am i saying! We're talking about the movie here!

And i agree with everyone here, The Road was better, but the Book of Eli isn't bad.

 

[UrbanMasque]

Yea its not bad, its pretty entertaining if just sit there and let the light from the screen give you a tan - but if you'd like to think about the movie after you've watched it, maybe you should see something else.

Fight Scenes - cool
Gun Fights - cool
Gary Oldman screaming - best part of the movie.
Green screen - crappy
Story - full of holes
other than that.. its ok.

btw - *Sorry Stal, I love you man, but if you lead your son up to a hill to be sacrificed on an alter because the voice in your head told you to do so, you need to be committed. There isn't any poetic beauty in that or abstract ideas tied to that - the message is very direct, "Do what I tell you, when I tell you, no matter what I tell you - and you will be rewarded for it."

 

[Trippysmurf]

btw - *Sorry Stal, I love you man, but if you lead your son up to a hill to be sacrificed on an alter because the voice in your head told you to do so, you need to be committed. There isn't any poetic beauty in that or abstract ideas tied to that - the message is very direct, "Do what I tell you, when I tell you, no matter what I tell you - and you will be rewarded for it."

Behold the true purpose of Judaism: to openly discuss the varying meanings and lessons in the Bible, as well as the Talmud, so we can better understand our nature, our world, our people and our path in life. Jews have been doing this for thousands of years and we still have never come to a concise conclusion on any teaching, but we all become better through trying to learn.

Likewise, the whole indecisiveness leads to a joke: If you have 2 Jews in a room, you'll have three opinions.

 

[MikeyVassallo]

Here is the thing Urban, if you don't question the fact God exists and God was talking to Abraham then you don't question the fact that he would do what God told him, no matter how crazy. The fact that God stopped him and provided a sacrifice is the point of the story. God was never ever intending Isaac to be the sacrifice, he was intending to teach Abraham, the father of all nations, that he should trust in the Lord and the Lord will provide.

The caveat to the story is you need to believe in God.

 

[UrbanMasque]

Here is the thing Urban, if you don't question the fact God exists

Stop right there. That's the fundamental difference in our personalities I guess. I need some data.. Evidence, PROOF!!! And proof negates faith, I guess that's why religious texts never fully absorbed into my thinking even in catholic school, so... We could have this exchange for over a Month - and nothing would be accomplished. Plus, I don't want to alienate one of the few people in this forum that still finds me tolerable. I concede. You win. Good day sir.

 

[Trippysmurf]

We could have this exchange for over a Month - and nothing would be accomplished.

I disagree right there. While I do not think either side would change their viewpoint, I do feel that a discussion between you two (and the few other intelligent posters) could generate some ideas and concepts that either the other, and/or those viewing the debate, had not taken into consideration prior to the argument and develop a yearning to learn more on that specific feature.

Unfortunately the Bible doesn't come with writer commentary (and by extension neither did the constitution), so the true opinions of the original writers have been lost to time. However the fact that we can have a discussion on what these words mean without fearing persecution, death or everything else my and Rakon's people have gone through is a great thing and I feel we should allocate some time to do so.

We could keep it civil, we could focus on only one passage to begin with, but I think having something of this nature would be good for all us, in the least help us understand our fellow man.

We also don't have to do it here with the rest of the ignorant neckbeard mouthbreathers. We could set up an email correspondence, or something similar.

 

[KoalaRainbowPoop]

i'm horny, i heard the word goat, let me at him.

 

[GRColin]

So what's the rape scene like in the movie, really? I'm just so fucking tired of rape in films when it doesn't really serve much of a purpose. I can handle it but I'm just curious to know what to expect.

 

[Lien]

So what's the rape scene like in the movie, really? I'm just so f****** tired of rape in films when it doesn't really serve much of a purpose. I can handle it but I'm just curious to know what to expect.

:shock:

 

[UrbanMasque]

So what's the rape scene like in the movie, really? I'm just so f****** tired of rape in films when it doesn't really serve much of a purpose. I can handle it but I'm just curious to know what to expect.

Listening to a rape for Eli is like watching porn to him.

He wound up killing those idiots ANYWAY, why didn't he step in before hand. I think he got his jollies off listening to her moan... just my two cents. He could've saved her life and stopped a rape.

*btw- I'd be down for an email exchange debate/discussion.

 

[MikeyVassallo]

Here is the thing Urban, if you don't question the fact God exists

Stop right there. That's the fundamental difference in our personalities I guess. I need some data.. Evidence, PROOF!!! And proof negates faith, I guess that's why religious texts never fully absorbed into my thinking even in catholic school, so... We could have this exchange for over a Month - and nothing would be accomplished. Plus, I don't want to alienate one of the few people in this forum that still finds me tolerable. I concede. You win. Good day sir.

If you didn't stop me right there and kept on reading what I'm saying you would realize I took in to account the fact you don't believe in God therefor you get something different out of the text.

 

[UrbanMasque]

I did read it all, i just stopped there to make my point.

 

[GRColin]

So what's the rape scene like in the movie, really? I'm just so f****** tired of rape in films when it doesn't really serve much of a purpose. I can handle it but I'm just curious to know what to expect.

Listening to a rape for Eli is like watching porn to him.

He wound up killing those idiots ANYWAY, why didn't he step in before hand. I think he got his jollies off listening to her moan... just my two cents. He could've saved her life and stopped a rape.

*btw- I'd be down for an email exchange debate/discussion.

Debate about what? Why he didn't step in and stop them? Or rape in film? If the latter I'm okay with it if it fuels the story and is integral to it such as in Last House on The Left (the well done remake, not the exploitative original) and Straw Dogs.

Oh and what was with that emoticon Lien? I don't get it.