Modern Warfare 3 speculation.

[Eyebrowsbv31]

My MW 3 predictions?

Short, over the top, unrealistic campaign.
Unevolved gameplay.
Too few players allowed in MP.
PC gamers get a game built with consoles in mind.

So yeah. We'll get MW2 and Black Ops packaged as MW3 and it will sell like hot cakes.

That's what I said. Copycat.

 

[Kijan]

My MW 3 predictions?

Short, over the top, unrealistic campaign.
Unevolved gameplay.
Too few players allowed in MP.
PC gamers get a game built with consoles in mind.

So yeah. We'll get MW2 and Black Ops packaged as MW3 and it will sell like hot cakes.

Yes, because standing on a walkway with hundreds of soldiers rushing at you is realistic. Let's not forget earthquakes.

And crazy snowmobile riding. Now we need crazy snowmobile riding across a bridge, shooting hundreds of soldiers WHILE AN EARTHQUAKE IS HAPPENING! OH MY GOD MY BRAIN HAD AN ORGASM OF AWESOMENESS!!!

I hope you read my comment as saying *unrealistic*.

Yes, but I was referencing Battlefield 3.

And let the flame war... BEGIN!

 

[GRColin]

My MW 3 predictions?

Short, over the top, unrealistic campaign.
Unevolved gameplay.
Too few players allowed in MP.
PC gamers get a game built with consoles in mind.

So yeah. We'll get MW2 and Black Ops packaged as MW3 and it will sell like hot cakes.

That's what I said. Copycat.

Pfft. Just more reason to believe what we're saying is accurate if more than one thinks it!

 

[GRColin]

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Yes, but I was referencing Battlefield 3.

That changes the dynamic then and makes it seem as though you imply I was calling BF3 realistic when...BF3 was not even mentioned. A realistic war game would be...Oh I don't know...The original Operation Flashpoint. Or Full Spectrum Warrior.

[quote="Kijan"And let the flame war... BEGIN![/quote]

If there is one, it won't be with me. Flame wars are as lame as a quadriplegic.

 

[TheJx4]

]

Yes, but I was referencing Battlefield 3.

That changes the dynamic then and makes it seem as though you imply I was calling BF3 realistic when...BF3 was not even mentioned. A realistic war game would be...Oh I don't know...The original Operation Flashpoint. Or Full Spectrum Warrior.

[quote="Kijan"And let the flame war... BEGIN!

If there is one, it won't be with me. Flame wars are as lame as a quadriplegic.[/quote]

Then there's absolutely no other reason to mention realism.
It's overrated.

http://www.moddb.com/games/breaking-the-rules

 

[NickKmet]

Yes, because standing on a walkway with hundreds of soldiers rushing at you is realistic. Let's not forget earthquakes.

Hyperbole much? But, for the sake of arguing since I have nothing else to do at work today, you'd be surprised how stupid untrained militia can be. Reading a few first hand accounts can be quite revealing in that regard. Now, as for hundreds of trained, Russian operatives rushing at you like dumb idiots? Oh wait, I guess Call of Duty has got that one down pretty well.

By the way, earthquakes do happen. I've been through several of them myself. Aftershocks are a real danger, especially along fault lines. To stage a military conflict during such an event isn't really that unrealistic.

But hey, neither game is realistic anyways... cause... they're games that don't really approximate the real world all that realistically. But, if you're going to disparage one, you should at least come up with some good reasons. Like, for example, not dying after being hit once. Or, being completely crippled and unable to contribute after being hit once. Or, guns are wayyyy too accurate for the ranges they are being depicted as firing at.

 

[TheJx4]

Yes, because standing on a walkway with hundreds of soldiers rushing at you is realistic. Let's not forget earthquakes.

Hyperbole much? But, for the sake of arguing since I have nothing else to do at work today, you'd be surprised how stupid untrained militia can be. Reading a few first hand accounts can be quite revealing in that regard. Now, as for hundreds of trained, Russian operatives rushing at you like dumb idiots? Oh wait, I guess Call of Duty has got that one down pretty well.

By the way, earthquakes do happen. I've been through several of them myself. Aftershocks are a real danger, especially along fault lines. To stage a military conflict during such an event isn't really that unrealistic.

But hey, neither game is realistic anyways... cause... they're games that don't really approximate the real world all that realistically. But, if you're going to disparage one, you should at least come up with some good reasons. Like, for example, not dying after being hit once. Or, being completely crippled and unable to contribute after being hit once. Or, guns are wayyyy too accurate for the ranges they are being depicted as firing at.

Are you one of those people who thinks hip fire is super inaccurate? Just wondering.
also, I have Rainbow Six Vegas 2 for my realism fix.

I'm also not a fan of the destruction in Battlefield. Saw someone shoot a tree with a tank, and it just...fell. Then I saw someone blow throw walls with a gun, just walking and shooting like it was Minecraft or something.


Also, any of you picking up MW3? Would love to have some Spec Ops partners.

 

[NickKmet]

Are you one of those people who thinks hip fire is super inaccurate? Just wondering.
also, I have Rainbow Six Vegas 2 for my realism fix.

I'm also not a fan of the destruction in Battlefield. Saw someone shoot a tree with a tank, and it just...fell. Then I saw someone blow throw walls with a gun, just walking and shooting like it was Minecraft or something.


Also, any of you picking up MW3? Would love to have some Spec Ops partners.

Hip fire is pretty inaccurate. There's a reason you almost never see real soldiers shooting any method but down the sight. Hell, most guns in general are pretty inaccurate. Hence why casualty levels are so extremely low today. If you could seriously hit and kill people like you can in Black Ops or Battlefield 2 or any "modern" shooter, fatality levels in the middle east for US soldiers would probably be on the same level as World War 2.

lol, Rainbow Six Vegas 2. If you want realism, you need to go back a few Rainbow Sixes.

Sure, frostbite isn't perfect. They aren't able to model real world physics yet. But at least they are starting to go down the road of destructible environments. That's where graphics development should be headed - more realistic physics.

But, uh, back on topic. I'll probably get MW3 eventually. Once the price comes down. Then again, I still see MW2 for $50-$60 at stores these days. So maybe I'll have to wait 5 years?

 

[TheJx4]

Are you one of those people who thinks hip fire is super inaccurate? Just wondering.
also, I have Rainbow Six Vegas 2 for my realism fix.

I'm also not a fan of the destruction in Battlefield. Saw someone shoot a tree with a tank, and it just...fell. Then I saw someone blow throw walls with a gun, just walking and shooting like it was Minecraft or something.


Also, any of you picking up MW3? Would love to have some Spec Ops partners.

Hip fire is pretty inaccurate. There's a reason you almost never see real soldiers shooting any method but down the sight. Hell, most guns in general are pretty inaccurate. Hence why casualty levels are so extremely low today. If you could seriously hit and kill people like you can in Black Ops or Battlefield 2 or any "modern" shooter, fatality levels in the middle east for US soldiers would probably be on the same level as World War 2.

lol, Rainbow Six Vegas 2. If you want realism, you need to go back a few Rainbow Sixes.

Sure, frostbite isn't perfect. They aren't able to model real world physics yet. But at least they are starting to go down the road of destructible environments. That's where graphics development should be headed - more realistic physics.

But, uh, back on topic. I'll probably get MW3 eventually. Once the price comes down. Then again, I still see MW2 for $50-$60 at stores these days. So maybe I'll have to wait 5 years?

I never found the originals to be that fun. Vegas had a good mix of arcade and realism.

 

[NickKmet]

I never found the originals to be that fun. Vegas had a good mix of arcade and realism.

They always left me with a sense of satisfaction, especially after all the planning you had to go through paid off in the end. When Vegas came out, I thought it was an insult to the intelligence of the series to make it arcade-like. The whole point of the original gameplay was to be a true tactical shooter - that's what made it so interesting, because it was different from everything else. Then they went and made it just like everything else.

I will admit though, I always cheated past the obligatory "you can't be seen by or kill anybody in this mission while you go plant a bug on their phone in their bedroom in the middle of this heavily guarded complex" missions. Way too fucking hard, way too frustrating.

 

[TheJx4]

I never found the originals to be that fun. Vegas had a good mix of arcade and realism.

They always left me with a sense of satisfaction, especially after all the planning you had to go through paid off in the end. When Vegas came out, I thought it was an insult to the intelligence of the series to make it arcade-like. The whole point of the original gameplay was to be a true tactical shooter - that's what made it so interesting, because it was different from everything else. Then they went and made it just like everything else.

I will admit though, I always cheated past the obligatory "you can't be seen by or kill anybody in this mission while you go plant a bug on their phone in their bedroom in the middle of this heavily guarded complex" missions. Way too f****** hard, way too frustrating.

No, the insult to the intelligence of the series was Lockdown. Jesus christ, that was an awful game.

The only thing I remember from the original were large houses. Very large houses. I did enjoy all the night missions though.

 

[danielrbischoff]

Oh no... Rainbow Six... I'm going to go cry now. Miss that game dearly.

 

[TheJx4]

Oh no... Rainbow Six... I'm going to go cry now. Miss that game dearly.

Have you gotten any hands on time with the new one?
It doesn't resemble Rainbow Six at all.

 

[Kijan]

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Yes, but I was referencing Battlefield 3.

That changes the dynamic then and makes it seem as though you imply I was calling BF3 realistic when...BF3 was not even mentioned. A realistic war game would be...Oh I don't know...The original Operation Flashpoint. Or Full Spectrum Warrior.

[quote="Kijan"And let the flame war... BEGIN!

If there is one, it won't be with me. Flame wars are as lame as a quadriplegic.[/quote]

Lame as a quadriplegic... didn't hear that one before. :shock:

 

[GRColin]

Yes, but I was referencing Battlefield 3.

That changes the dynamic then and makes it seem as though you imply I was calling BF3 realistic when...BF3 was not even mentioned. A realistic war game would be...Oh I don't know...The original Operation Flashpoint. Or Full Spectrum Warrior.

Then there's absolutely no other reason to mention realism.
It's overrated.

http://www.moddb.com/games/breaking-the-rules

That...Kind of makes no sense. Because I'm not talking about BF3 in a CoD topic there's no reason to mention realism? We were talking predictions for MW3 and I predicted a lack of realism. To me, it's somewhat important. Not like every game needs to be uber-realistic but yeah, a little bit is nice.

And apparently I can't quote worth a shit today.

 

[danielrbischoff]

Oh no... Rainbow Six... I'm going to go cry now. Miss that game dearly.

Have you gotten any hands on time with the new one?
It doesn't resemble Rainbow Six at all.

What new one? Vegas? No... Never appealed to me.

 

[TheJx4]

Oh no... Rainbow Six... I'm going to go cry now. Miss that game dearly.

Have you gotten any hands on time with the new one?
It doesn't resemble Rainbow Six at all.

What new one? Vegas? No... Never appealed to me.

http://kotaku.com/5814871/source-new-ra ... r-in-years

 

[danielrbischoff]

Oh no... Rainbow Six... I'm going to go cry now. Miss that game dearly.

Have you gotten any hands on time with the new one?
It doesn't resemble Rainbow Six at all.

What new one? Vegas? No... Never appealed to me.

http://kotaku.com/5814871/source-new-ra ... r-in-years

Oh yes, that. No. It wasn't at E3. I don't think it'll be at PAX. I don't think it'll be at Gamescom even.... So no, I haven't seen that. You probably won't hear anything about it until after Ghost Recon Future Soldier comes out.

 

[used44]

FUCK I love Vegas and Vegas 2. Just saying.

 

[TheJx4]

Oh no... Rainbow Six... I'm going to go cry now. Miss that game dearly.

Have you gotten any hands on time with the new one?
It doesn't resemble Rainbow Six at all.

What new one? Vegas? No... Never appealed to me.

http://kotaku.com/5814871/source-new-ra ... r-in-years

Oh yes, that. No. It wasn't at E3. I don't think it'll be at PAX. I don't think it'll be at Gamescom even.... So no, I haven't seen that. You probably won't hear anything about it until after Ghost Recon Future Soldier comes out.

So....never?