SCOTUS ruling on video game sales to minors.

[Eyebrowsbv31]

Good, the age of that moron (that you all know of) have ended. Now the age of publishers exploiting gamers can get into full swing!
:roll:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_supreme_c ... ideo_games

But it really shows how far behind the mainstream still is, they freaking mention "Postal 2" still.

God.

 

[Green_Lantern]

It's kinda of odd that Thomas and Scalia had differing opinions on this since they both are so called originalists and usually tend to agree on about everything.

 

[NickKmet]

It's kinda of odd that Thomas and Scalia had differing opinions on this since they both are so called originalists and usually tend to agree on about everything.

It's interesting though when you actually read their opinions as the why that is. Scalia referenced a large number of court cases to back up the position he held. Thomas referenced none, and instead relied on his own opinion and at best, anecdotal evidence. In one of Scalia's responses to Thomas, tacked on at the end, he pointed out a number of glaring holes in Thomas' argument and really made him look, well, childish and idiotic. It was kind of funny to see Scalia basically make a fool out of Thomas on paper.

 

[LinksOcarina]

and usually Scalia is made the fool....I am actually impressed by him for this opinion.

 

[Bretimus_v2]

So wait, to clarify, now kids of ages <17 can rent/buy M-rated games on their own?

la-di-da, princess

However, this is a great environmental move because now you're saving the parent the unnecessary car trip (gross, fossil fuel emissiosn) to go buy the game for their kid.

 

[NickKmet]

and usually Scalia is made the fool....I am actually impressed by him for this opinion.

That's the thing about constitutional traditionalists. Most of the time they look like idiots, but every once and a while they can surprise you.

It kind of reminds me of that strongly credentialed "conservative" lawyer (Ted Olson) who fought against Prop 8 in California - he did it because he believed in a strong adherence to the constitution, and not political ideology. It was funny watching him on fox news... basically destroyed every point Chris Wallace tried to make (in that nice, I know more than you lawyerly way).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yni_j2u0 ... re=related

 

[NickKmet]

So wait, to clarify, now kids of ages <17 can rent/buy M-rated games on their own?

la-di-da, princess

However, this is a great environmental move because now you're saving the parent the unnecessary car trip (gross, fossil fuel emissiosn) to go buy the game for their kid.

No. The ruling merely states that no law can be passed to ban the sale of video games for violent or objectionable content to minors due to free speech concerns (pornography in games could of course be banned). The ESRB continues to exist and I'm sure most retailers will continue to voluntarily follow the ESRB guidelines on how to sell M rated games (that is, not selling them to minors). Right now there are no legal penalties assigned to retailers if they were to sell M rated games to minors. The law would have made that the case. It's basically the equivalent of the state making it illegal and a jailable/fineable offense to let someone under the age of 17 into an R rated movie. The court says that violates free speech. The state has no right to say what is considered objectionable (minus pornographic material).

 

[LinksOcarina]

Ted Olson is the man.

 

[Bretimus_v2]

Wonderful clarification, thank you, Nick.

 

[NickKmet]

Wonderful clarification, thank you, Nick.

No problemo. Work is boring today anyways.

 

[LinksOcarina]

The big point to this though is what we like playing now is protected by free speech laws the same way books and music are, which is equally important.

 

[NickKmet]

The big point to this though is what we like playing now is protected by free speech laws the same way books and music are, which is equally important.

Pretty much. This really is a big deal, as there is basically no avenue now for the Jack Thompsons of the world to do anything. All they can do is bitch now.

 

[Longo_2_guns]

Well this kinda sucks. I was really kinda hoping this would pass.

 

[danielrbischoff]

Well this kinda sucks. I was really kinda hoping this would pass.

BAM! Longo comes at you with a zinger! :evil: :twisted:

 

[NickKmet]

Well this kinda sucks. I was really kinda hoping this would pass.

BAM! Longo comes at you with a zinger! :evil: :twisted:

What an asshole.

 

[BlackStar]

Kids under 17 only want to play M rated titles because they're not allowed to. Kids are just dumb like that.

 

[Longo_2_guns]

Well, not this one specifically, since it was poorly written, but something of the like. Preferably something that sets the ESRB as a stronger authority on the matter.

Because really, kids SHOULDN'T be buying M rated games. Until you're about 16 or 17, you're an obnoxious little shit who does nothing but annoy everyone. I was. You were. Everyone was. And parents these days don't know shit. While in a perfect world we could just educate the parents, that's not going to happen.

Really, though, no one worth mentioning is affected by this. Saying that this is a win for "us gamers" (a term so annoying it hurts my teeth) is considerably wrong.

 

[danielrbischoff]

Because really, kids SHOULDN'T be buying M rated games.

But it's not buying that's the problem. It's playing, and if you've ever played Call of Duty online, you'll know that kids have no problem getting their hands on M rated games.

 

[Longo_2_guns]

Which is why we need something established to prevent that, obviously.

 

[Wes]

My cousins who are 14 and 10 love to play Left 4 Dead or pretty much anything with zombies in it. I don't agree but I'm not their father. Their father, my uncle, doesn't care at all. And as a result the kids have become spoiled brats who update every second of their life on FB with the worst grammar and spelling you can imagine. They also think it's ok to sneak into R rated movies. They were caught because instead of being quiet, they threw popcorn at each other and yelled.

I tried to get them into the Wii and more teen related stuff but they said it was for babies. It's sad really, they used to be such nice kids. But I have a feeling if my uncle gave a fuck and restricted them from games and stuff they're not ready for they'd behave a little better.