Libyan Rebels 25 km from Tripoli & Advancing....

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  1. blobbohen

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    This is absolutely surreal to watch unfold from the Reuters and Twitter feeds. The anti-Qaddafi forces are making their challenge to this dictator that much more serious minute by minute. Reading about this via the random and piecemeal updates is damn awesome as a revolt unfolds on the other side of the world.

    Figured Game Revolution would want in on an actual revolution as it happens right now.
     
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    Insane watching that Reuters video of the weaponry being taken towards Tripoli. Anti-air mortars mounted to the back of trucks, RPGs, tanks... wow, hope this ends well.
     
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    This will not end well for someone, I just hope the Rebels actually take it and take down Ghadafi.
     
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  4. lokness

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    Can't be arsed watching it unfold minute by minute, but i will read the news piece after the dust settles. Are the brits still doing air raids?
     
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  5. Eyebrowsbv31

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    Replace Tripoli with Tropico and we got a topic for the general games section.

    Anyways, probably will set up an Anti-US, pro woman beating/child marrying country, but we'll see. I'll be optimistic.
     
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    Seconded.

    Seconded.
     
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    ^Fourthed?
     
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    How was Libya doing under the rule of Gadaffi? How bad did the people have it? Were they oppressed as we now commonly accept as fact? Let us look at the facts for a moment.

    Before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech republic. It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa. Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa. Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.

    People in Libya were rich.

    Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.

    How does Libya get so rich?

    The answer is oil. The country has a lot of oil, and does not allow foreign corporations to steal the resources while the population starves, unlike countries like Nigeria, a country that is basically run by Shell.

    Like any country, Libya suffers from a government with corrupt bureaucrats that try to gain a bigger portion of the pie at the cost of everyone else. In response to this, Kadaffi called for the oil revenue to be distributed directly to the people, because in his opinion, the government was failing the people. However, unlike the article claims, Gaddafi is not the president of Libya. In fact he holds no official position in the government. This is the big mistake that people make. They claim that Gaddafi rules over Libya when in fact he doesn’t, his position is more or less ceremonial. He should be compared to a founding father.

    The true leader of Libya is an indirectly elected prime-minister. The current prime-minister is Baghdadi Mahmudi.

    Calling Gaddafi the leader of Libya is comparable to calling Akihito the leader of Japan.

    Contrary to what your media is sketching, opinions in Libya vary. Some people support Gaddafi but want Mahmudi out. Others want both out. Many just want to live their life in peace. However, effort is taken to sketch the appearance of a popular revolt against the supposed leader of Libya, Gaddafi, when in fact he is just the architect of Libya’s current political system, a mixture of pan-Arabism, socialism, and Islamic government.


    Also, Gaddafi used his oil profit to build a irrigation and water system which 70% of Libyans depend on. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Manmade_River)

    It's now destroyed, thanks to NATO bombing.

    I hope these "rebels" will be happy to find that when the oil profit sharing scheme with Europe goes awry and the profit does not arrive, they will be ok with their free health care and free education being canceled.
     
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    ^and yet there was rebellion. So obviously all that socialism and freedom wasn't working out for the people. Funny how that all works.
     
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    *sees political discussion*

    *backs away, slowly*
     
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  12. blobbohen

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    The rebels have taken Tripoli and Gaddafi's sons have been apprehended. Live coverage is going down now on BBC. And they also appear to be randomly reporting on the weather.... interesting.

    It looks like the revolutionaries are going to get the win for this one. Gaddafi is freaking out even more so than usual and I think the country of Libya and the world are realizing just how huge an accomplishment this is for overthrowing a maniac that brutishly ruled for decades.

    The cynicism I'm hearing in this thread is hilarious, by the way, and evidence of just how half-informed the loudest people in this forum usually are. Keep the comedy gold coming, please, I'm in stitches. You're scoffing at a legitimate, way past due revolution and sound akin to what the TEA party or BNP would come up with.

    In any case the reporting on this continues to roll out, and the goals being outlined for the Libya sound as tough as they are admirable. Cheers, Libya. This is dynamic to the core.
     
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    I find the british, weather, and unbelievable smugness go hand in hand and hand.


    Or maybe we're fully informed and just don't give a shit.

    EDIT: I'd also like to add that mentioning the "tea party" alongside the BNP shows how ill-informed you are.
     
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    That oxford comma is debatable.
     
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    I am merely posting to get to 3000 posts.


    Good day to you all.
     
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    Well played sir, well played.
     
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    (Continuing to laugh at the agitation from the resident tweak bearing righteous indignation & libertarian ire. Absolutely adorable.)

    For anyone still curious there's some very well-done, objective reporting that went down on the situation in Tripoli on Democracy Now!.

    There were some initial mistakes with reporting about the capture of Gadafi's sons but Tripoli continues to be engaged in some heavy combat. The reporting on Democracy Now! also raises alot of great points about the composition of the rebel forces and of how extensive the NATO/U.S. involvement is and continues to be.

    The degree of news coverage is really spot-on with this if you know the right places to look.
     
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  20. Lien

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    Breaking news! Muammar Gaddafi (with a G darn it!) is dead. We do not know how and who, or if he was captured or not before his death for the moment.
    All we know was that he was in sirte when he was fleeing the conflict where along the process he got killed somehow.

    Also i decided to show a Al jazeera link cause that was where i first heard it. Sorry CNN fans

    http://english.aljazeera.net/news/africa/2011/10/20111020111520869621.html
     
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